Re: [RFC] Should we fix postmaster to avoid slow shutdown?

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we fix postmaster to avoid slow shutdown?
Date: 2016-11-22 21:26:59
Message-ID: 20161122212659.ayg5mqnvckim3nbq@alvherre.pgsql
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Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2016-11-22 16:15:58 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

> > Maybe a workable compromise would be to leave the file present, and have
> > the stats collector re-write it every (say) five minutes. Then I'd be
> > okay with having an immediate shutdown skip writing the file; you'd be
> > losing up to five minutes' worth of activity, but not going completely
> > nuts. So the stats collector's normal activities would include writing
> > the temp file on-demand and the permanent file on a timed cycle.
> >
> > The other components of the fix (deleting on PITR rewind or stats
> > collector crash) would remain the same.

+1

> It could even make sense to WAL log the contents of the stats file at
> checkpoint (or similar) time. Then it'd be sane after crash recovery,
> including starting from an old base backup. Loosing the information
> about what to vacuum / analyze after a failover is quite problematic...

An idea worth considering. This would also mean the file is valid in a
standby -- the lack of the file is currently a problem if you promote
the standby, as I recall. But the file is perhaps too large to write to
WAL on every checkpoint.

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Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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