Re: A Modest Upgrade Proposal

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:18:28AM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 7 July 2016 at 21:10, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> pg_upgrade does that, kinda.  I'd like to have something better, but
> in the absence of that, I think it's quite wrong to think about
> deprecating it, even if we had logical replication fully integrated
> into core today.  Which we by no means do.
>
> I don't see any problem with extending pg_upgrade to use logical replication
> features under the covers.
>
> It seems very smooth to be able to just say
>
>    pg_upgrade --online 
>
> and then specify whatever other parameters that requires.
>
> It would be much easier to separate out that as a use-case so we can be sure we
> get that in 10.0, even if nothing else lands.

Uh, while "pg_upgrade --online" looks cool, I am not sure a solution
based on logical replication would share _any_ code with the existing
pg_upgrade tool, so it seems best to use another binary for this.

I guess we could use the pg_dump/pg_restore pg_upgrade code to create
the objects, and use logical replication to copy the rows, but what does
this gain us that pg_dump/pg_restore doesn't? Wouldn't you just create
the standby using logical replication and just switch-over? Why use
pg_upgrade at all? Am I missing something?

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