Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Avoid extra locks in GetSnapshotData if old_snapshot_threshold <

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Avoid extra locks in GetSnapshotData if old_snapshot_threshold <
Date: 2016-04-16 22:04:39
Message-ID: 20160416220439.56ga5ghy4zgt356h@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2016-04-16 17:52:44 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> > On 2016-04-16 16:44:52 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
> >> That is more controversial than the potential ~2% regression for
> >> old_snapshot_threshold=-1. Alvaro[2] and Robert[3] are okay releasing
> >> that way, and Andres[4] is not.
>
> > FWIW, I could be kinda convinced that it's temporarily ok, if there'd be
> > a clear proposal on the table how to solve the scalability issue around
> > MaintainOldSnapshotTimeMapping(). Postponing the optimization around
> > something as trivial as a spinlock around reading an LSN is one thing,
> > postponing something we don't know the solution to is anohter.
>
> The message Noah cited mentions only a 4% regression, but this one
> seems far worse:
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20160413200148.bawmwjdmggbllhha@alap3.anarazel.de
>
> That's more than a 5X penalty, which seems like it would make the
> feature unusable; unless there is an argument that that's an extreme
> case that wouldn't be representative of most real-world usage.
> Which there may well be; I've not been following this thread carefully.

The 4 % was with the feature disabled (in comparison to before it's
introduction), we're not sure where that's coming from. But the 5x - and
that was just on a mid-sized box - is with the feature enabled.

- Andres

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