Re: How about a option to disable autovacuum cancellation on lock conflict?

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: How about a option to disable autovacuum cancellation on lock conflict?
Date: 2014-12-02 19:08:59
Message-ID: 20141202190859.GI2456@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2014-12-02 11:02:07 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 12/02/2014 10:35 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > If the table is large, the time window for this to happen is large also;
> > there might never be a time window large enough between two lock
> > acquisitions for one autovacuum run to complete in a table. This
> > starves the table from vacuuming completely, until things are bad enough
> > that an emergency vacuum is forced. By then, the bloat is disastrous.
> >
> > I think it's that suicide that Andres wants to disable.

Correct.

> A much better solution for this ... and one which would solve a *lot* of
> other issues with vacuum and autovacuum ... would be to give vacuum a
> way to track which blocks an incomplete vacuum had already visited.
> This would be even more valuable for freeze.

That's pretty much a different problem. Yes, some more persistent would
be helpful - although it'd need to be *much* more than which pages it
has visited - but you'd still be vulnerable to the same issue.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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