From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Adam Brightwell <adam(dot)brightwell(at)crunchydatasolutions(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions |
Date: | 2014-10-29 15:24:40 |
Message-ID: | 20141029152440.GK28859@tamriel.snowman.net |
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* Robert Haas (robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >> The larger point though is that this is just one of innumerable attack
> >> routes for anyone with the ability to make the server do filesystem reads
> >> or writes of his choosing. If you think that's something you can safely
> >> give to people you don't trust enough to make them superusers, you are
> >> wrong, and I don't particularly want to spend the next ten years trying
> >> to wrap band-aids around your misjudgment.
> >
> > ... but that doesn't necessarily address this point.
>
> I think the question is "just how innumerable are those attack
> routes"? So, we can prevent a symlink from being used via O_NOFOLLOW.
> But what about hard links?
You can't hard link to files you don't own.
sfrost(at)tamriel:/home/sfrost> ln /home/archive/xx.tar.gz
ln: failed to create hard link ?./xx.tar.gz? => ?/home/archive/xx.tar.gz?: Operation not permitted
> In general, the hazard is that an untrusted user can induce the user
> to read or write a file that the user in question could not have read
> or written himself. It's not clear to me whether it's reasonably
> possible to build a system that is robust against such attacks, or
> not.
There are certainly use-cases where the user executing the COPY doesn't
have any direct access to the filesystem at all but only through PG.
Taken to a bit of an extreme, you could say we already provide that
today. ;)
Thanks!
Stephen
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