Re: better atomics - v0.6

On 2014-09-24 12:44:09 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > On 2014-09-24 18:55:51 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> >> There doesn't seem to be any hardware implementations of that in the patch.
> >> Is there any architecture that has an instruction or compiler intrinsic for
> >> that?
>
> > You can implement it rather efficiently on ll/sc architectures. But I
> > don't really think it matters. I prefer add_until (I've seen it named
> > saturated add before as well) to live in the atomics code, rather than
> > reimplement it in atomics employing code. I guess you see that
> > differently?
>
> I think the question is more like "what in the world happened to confining
> ourselves to a small set of atomics".

I fail to see why the existance of a wrapper around compare-exchange
(which is one of the primitives we'd agreed upon) runs counter to
the agreement that we'll only rely on a limited number of atomics on the
hardware level?

> I doubt either that this exists
> natively anywhere, or ethat it's so useful that we should expect platforms
> to have efficient implementations.

It's useful for my work to get rid of most LockBufHdr() calls (to
manipulate usagecount locklessly). That's why I added it. We can delay
it till that patch is ready, but I don't really see the benefit.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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