Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe Reply-To:

From: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Atri Sharma <atri(dot)jiit(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe Reply-To:
Date: 2014-03-21 20:58:28
Message-ID: 20140321205828.GB3969106@tornado.leadboat.com
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 06:53:27PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 21 March 2014 17:49, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> wrote:
>
> >> > alter table information_schema.triggers set (security_barrier = true);
> >>
> >> I find it hard to justify why we accept such a statement. Surely its a
> >> bug when the named table turns out to be a view? Presumably ALTER
> >> SEQUENCE and ALTER <other stuff> has checks for the correct object
> >> type? OMG.
> >
> > We've framed ALTER TABLE's relkind leniency as a historic artifact. As a move
> > toward stricter checks, ALTER TABLE refused to operate on foreign tables in
> > 9.1 and 9.2. 9.3 reversed that course, though. For better or worse, ALTER
> > TABLE is nearly a union of the relation ALTER possibilities. That choice is
> > well-entrenched.
>
> By "well entrenched", I think you mean undocumented, untested, unintentional?

It's deliberate; a -hackers discussion revisits it perhaps once a year. The
ALTER VIEW documentation says:

For historical reasons, ALTER TABLE can be used with views too; but the only
variants of ALTER TABLE that are allowed with views are equivalent to the
ones shown above.

ALTER INDEX and ALTER SEQUENCE say something similar.

> Do we think anyone *relies* on being able to say the word TABLE when
> in fact they mean VIEW or SEQUENCE?

pg_dump emits statements that exercise it:

psql -c 'create view v as select 1 as c; alter view v alter c set default 0;'
pg_dump --table v | grep ALTER

> How is that artefact anything but a bug? i.e. is anyone going to stop
> me fixing it?

It's not the behavior I would choose for a new product, but I can't see
benefits sufficient to overturn previous decisions to keep it.

--
Noah Misch
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com

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