Re: Proof of concept: standalone backend with full FE/BE protocol

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, Gurjeet Singh <singh(dot)gurjeet(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proof of concept: standalone backend with full FE/BE protocol
Date: 2013-11-20 16:19:42
Message-ID: 20131120161942.GC18801@awork2.anarazel.de
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On 2013-11-20 11:08:33 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > On 2013-11-20 10:48:20 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> constraining what can be executed as a "standalone backend". Would
> >> it work to insist that psql/pg_dump launch the program named postgres
> >> from the same bin directory they're in, rather than accepting a path
> >> from the connection string?
>
> > But why do we want to start the server through the connection string
> > using PQconnectb() in the first place? That doesn't really seem right to
> > me.
> > Something like PQstartSingleUser(dsn) returning a established connection
> > seems better to me.
>
> That just pushes the problem up a level --- how are you going to tell
> psql, pg_dump, or other programs that they should do that?

An explicit parameter. A program imo explicitly needs to be aware that a
PQconnect() suddenly starts forking and such. What if it is using
threads? What if it has it's own SIGCHLD handler for other business it's
doing?

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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