Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])
Date: 2013-08-20 15:39:54
Message-ID: 20130820153954.GN2706@tamriel.snowman.net
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* Alvaro Herrera (alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
> Stephen Frost escribió:
> > * Alvaro Herrera (alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
> > > Stephen Frost escribió:
>
> > > > I'd much rather have an includedir directive than some hard-coded or
> > > > command-line option to read the directory.. The directory should live
> > > > in /etc/postgresql/X.Y/cluster/ on at least Debian derivatives..
> > >
> > > The conf.d/ path would be relative to postgresql.conf, so there's no
> > > need for Debian to patch anything.
> >
> > Uhhh, I really don't see that working, at all...
>
> I don't understand why not. Care to explain?

Tried to in my other mail, but let me also point out that we
("PGDG"/Upstream) don't "own" the directory in which postgresql.conf
lives. At least on Debian and relatives, that directory isn't under
$PGDATA and it already has other files in it beyond postgresql.conf or
even the other PostgreSQL config files of hba and ident. Here's the
default directory setup on Debian for /etc/postgresql/9.2/main/:

-rw-r--r-- 1 postgres postgres 316 Jun 29 22:07 environment
-rw-r--r-- 1 postgres postgres 143 Jun 29 22:07 pg_ctl.conf
-rw-r----- 1 postgres postgres 4649 Jun 29 22:07 pg_hba.conf
-rw-r----- 1 postgres postgres 1636 Jun 29 22:07 pg_ident.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 postgres postgres 19770 Jun 29 22:07 postgresql.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 postgres postgres 378 Jun 29 22:07 start.conf

There's three other files there and some sysadmins may have already
created their own 'conf.d' directory, perhaps to use for building the
postgresql.conf file or similar. We must have a way to disable the
conf.d option and a way to name it something other than 'conf.d', imv.

Thanks,

Stephen

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