Re: Formatting Curmudgeons WAS: MMAP Buffers

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, "Ross J(dot) Reedstrom" <reedstrm(at)rice(dot)edu>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Dan Ports <drkp(at)csail(dot)mit(dot)edu>, Kevin Grittner <kevin(dot)grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, andrew <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, cbbrowne <cbbrowne(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Formatting Curmudgeons WAS: MMAP Buffers
Date: 2011-05-09 15:25:24
Message-ID: 201105091525.p49FPOF25009@momjian.us
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Greg Smith wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 12:39 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> > In fact, I've been wondering if we shouldn't consider extending the
> > support window for 8.2 past the currently-planned December 2011.
> > There seem to be quite a lot of people running that release precisely
> > because the casting changes in 8.3 were so painful, and I think the
> > incremental effort on our part to extend support for another year
> > would be reasonably small.
>
> The pending EOL for 8.2 is the only thing that keeps me sane when
> speaking with people who refuse to upgrade, yet complain that their 8.2
> install is slow. This last month, that seems to be more than usual "why
> does autovacuum suck so much?" complaints that would all go away with an
> 8.3 upgrade. Extending the EOL is not doing any of these users a
> favor. Every day that goes by when someone is on a version of
> PostgreSQL that won't ever allow in-place upgrade is just making worse
> the eventual dump and reload they face worse. The time spent porting to
> 8.3 is a one-time thing; the suffering you get trying to have a 2011
> sized database on 2006's 8.2 just keeps adding up the longer you
> postpone it.

Interesting. You could argue that once 8.3 is our earliest supported
release that we could even shrink the support window because the
argument "I can't dump/reload my data" would be gone.

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