From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: On a somewhat disappointing correspondence (was: max_standby_delay considered harmful) |
Date: | 2010-05-06 00:04:19 |
Message-ID: | 201005060004.o4604JF25539@momjian.us |
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Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>
> I've refrained from comment on max_standby_delay because I have
> neither read the patch nor am likely to be an early adopter of HS;
> however, as a potential eventual user I have to say that the
> semantics for this GUC proposed by Simon seem sane and useful to me.
>
> Certainly the documentation would need to be clear on the pitfalls
> of using something other than 0 or -1, and there were technical
> issues raised on the thread outside the scope of the semantics of
> the GUC, but the issues around clock sync and transfer time ring of
> FUD. We sync our central router to a bank of atomic clocks around
> the world, and sync every server to the router -- if a server drifts
> we would have much bigger problems than this GUC would pose, so we
> monitor that and make loud noises should something drift.
>
> Are there other controls that would be useful? Undoubtedly. Should
> they be added to 9.0? I'm not in a position to say. I don't see
> the point of ripping out one potentially useful control, which
> *might* be sufficient for 9.0 because someone might choose to use it
> inappropriately. Just make sure it's documented well enough.
We are not very good at _removing_ functionality/GUCs, and based on the
discussion so far, I think there is a very slim chance we would get it
right for 9.0, which is why I suggested converting it to a boolean and
revisiting this for 9.1.
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
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