Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1197)

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
Cc: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1197)
Date: 2008-11-22 12:59:35
Message-ID: 200811221259.mAMCxZN11754@momjian.us
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KaiGai Kohei wrote:
> > What I am saying is for the default compile, SQL-level ACLs should be
> > possible because, since the ACL field has optional storage, there is no
> > downside to have it be available by default.
>
> I think it is a possible and desirable desicion from the viewpoint of
> security folks.
>
> However, I think we have a few issues, and it makes unclear whether
> we can make an agreement in the community.
> The one is a cost of security hooks. They consume a bit more CPU steps
> when a security mechanism is enabled. The other is prevention to override
> a few hooks (ExecutorRun_hook and planner_hook), because they assume
> standard implementations to be executed.
>
> Which is more desirable option in the default?

Well, my assumption is that if a table doesn't have SQL-level row
permissions then there is no overhead becaues there are no permissions
to check. If it does have SQL-level row permissions then the user who
created the table has accepted the performance impact of SQL-level row
permissions. I would think it would be pretty easy to see quickly if
any table in a query has SQL-level row permissions and then take the
performance hit.

For example, I might want to put SQL-level row permissions on an audit
table, but none of my other tables, and in that case I assume there is
only a performance impact on queries that use the audit table.

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