From: | Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> |
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To: | Gregory Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu> |
Cc: | andrew(at)supernews(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Fixed length data types issue |
Date: | 2006-09-08 12:06:43 |
Message-ID: | 20060908120643.GE5479@svana.org |
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 04:57:04PM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote:
> Uhm, an ICU source tree is over 40 *megabytes*. That's almost as much as the
> rest of Postgres itself and that doesn't even include documentation. Even if
> you exclude the data and regression tests you're still talking about depending
> on the portability and correctness of over 10 megabytes of new code.
I don't understand this argument. No-one asked what size the LDAP
libraries were when we added support for them. No-one cares that
libssl/libcrypto is as large as glibc. What size the libraries are that
postgresql uses is somewhat irrelevent. It's not like we're forcing
people to install them.
> Neither is ICU available on most platforms. In any case we only need strcoll_l
> as a performance optimization, the regular interface works, it's just slow.
Can you point me to a common platform where postgresql runs and ICU doesn't?
http://dev.icu-project.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/icu/readme.html?rev=HEAD#HowToBuildSupported
The only one I can see in the buildfarm that isn't mentioned is
Unixware.
> Well equal is part of collation at least in the sense you mean. What it
> doesn't help with is things like tolower or regexp matching. These are the
> things that I would suggest you usually want to be doing on the client because
> SQL's string manipulation facilities are so poor compared to most client
> languages.
If I specify a collation where case and accents are ignored, then GROUP
BY should ignore them too, and regexps should honour that. Moving all
this to the client doesn't seem like a good move at all.
Have a nice day,
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Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> http://svana.org/kleptog/
> From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate.
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