Re: Impending freeze

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Gordon Runkle <gar(at)integrated-dynamics(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Impending freeze
Date: 2002-09-02 06:11:50
Message-ID: 200209020611.g826Bpa19313@candle.pha.pa.us
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Yes, I think the key issue is whether we have a better chance of
preventing radical changes during beta if we go a few days during code
freeze to make sure everything is bolted down.

Marc doesn't want to do that, so we won't.

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Gordon Runkle wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2002 01:20:51 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >
> > My two cents: once we ship beta1 we should try really really hard to
> > avoid forcing an initdb cycle before final release. We can make all the
> > portability fixes and code fixes we like, but we have to avoid
> > disk-file-contents changes and system catalog changes. If we force an
> > initdb then we're penalizing beta testers who might have been foolish
> > enough to load large databases into the beta version --- and yeah, there
> > were no guarantees, but will they do it again next beta cycle?
>
> Well, speaking as a user and tester, I don't mind an initdb between beta
> releases -- and I'm planning on loading ~8GB of data. I've been playing
> with the CVS tip all week using a ~2GB dataset, and having to initdb
> every other day or so. No biggie, and I'm getting to test pg_dump, as a
> bonus! ;-)
>
> I suppose some delicate souls would be put off by an initdb, or get sore
> at experiencing the reason Beta != Production, but I think the serious
> users will prefer that you developers have a free hand to do whatever is
> necessary to make 7.3 as good as it can be.
>
> My US$0.02,
>
> Gordon.
> --
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> is the chance to work hard at work worth doing."
> -- Theodore Roosevelt
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