Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions

From: Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Adam Brightwell <adam(dot)brightwell(at)crunchydatasolutions(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions
Date: 2014-10-28 18:06:31
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> I think it would help, on all accounts, to explain why in the world
> we're spending time on this in the first place. I have a sneaking
> suspicion this is 1 of N things we need to do to meet some US
> government security standard, and if something like that is the case,
> that could tip the balance toward doing it, or toward a particular
> implementation of the concept.

Stephen my correct me on this, but I seem to remember him saying
that this was part of a general effort to avoid needing to use a
superuser login for routine tasks that don't fit into the area of
what a sysadmin would do. That seems like a laudable goal to me.
Of course, most or all of what this particular feature would allow
can be done using superuser-owned SECURITY DEFINER functions, but
that is sure a lot clumsier and error-prone than being able to say
that role x can read from directory data/input and role y can write
to directory data/output.

That said, Stephen does seem to have some additional specific use
cases in mind which he hasn't shared with the list; knowing what
problems we're talking about solving would sure help make
discussions about the possible solutions more productive. :-)

--
Kevin Grittner
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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