Re: Feedback on getting rid of VACUUM FULL

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Feedback on getting rid of VACUUM FULL
Date: 2009-09-17 07:47:25
Message-ID: 1253173645.9666.130.camel@ebony.2ndQuadrant
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On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:12 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> writes:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 21:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Yeah, I was just wondering about that myself. Seems like there would
> >> be lots of situations where short exclusive-lock intervals could be
> >> tolerated, even though not long ones.
>
> > But a short-lived exclusive lock can turn into a long-lived exclusive
> > lock if there are long-lived transactions ahead of it in the queue. We
> > probably don't want to automate anything by default that acquires
> > exclusive locks, even for a short time. However, I agree that it's fine
> > in many situations if the administrator is choosing it.
>
> Right, which is why autovacuum can't have anything to do with this.

We already do this and we already solved the problem associated with it.
VACUUM tries to grab a conditional lock to shrink the table. We can do
the same thing here, just retry the lock for each chunk cleaned.

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Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com

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