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Re: Language data


  • From: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
  • To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
  • Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
  • Subject: Re: Language data
  • Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:29:10 +0100
  • Message-id: <45DD7076(dot)8050107(at)lelarge(dot)info>

Magnus Hagander a ecrit le 18/02/2007 12:28:
Now that we have an initial set of data (sure, it's less than a week,
but it's something), here is some statistics on language settings in our
visitors browsers (I've added all the different Spanish into one group etc):

English			57.1%
German			 5.8%
Spanish			 5.3%
Brazilian-Portuguese	 5.2%
Japanese		 4.2%
French			 3.9%
Polish			 3.0%

nobody else breaks over 3%, but there are a total of 107 different
language combinations present.

From this, I read that it's correct to say that English only represents
a little over half our browsers primary language. But it's also true
that adding translations will not buy us much more *per translation*.
But if we do get both German and French (per discussions in the past
week), that would buy us almost 10%.


I see a different way to look at your statistics. This is just percentage numbers. Do you have "real" numbers ? I mean, 3.9% of the people visiting www.postgresql.org speak french. OK. But 3.9% of how many ?

Looking at wikipedia, the United States' population stood at an estimated 300,000,000. France has an estimated population of 64 million people. So France has 21.33% of the population the United States has. So having a 3.9% french people visiting the www.postgresql.org web site seems a bit huge to me. Of course, there's other countries where french is an official language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_French_is_an_official_language ... hmmm, much more than I thought :) ).

And how many french people are interested in PostgreSQL ? I can't say but if more than 50% of the french people interested in PostgreSQL are visiting www.postgresql.org, we absolutely need a french translation on this website.

I just hope my explanations were understandable.


Now, looking at geographical distribution, it's quite different:
United States		21.5%
Germany			 7.0%
Brazil			 6.5%
Japan			 4.6%
Poland			 4.1%
France			 4.0%
United Kingdom		 4.0%

Adding up English speaking countries in the top list (US, UK, Canada and
Australia), we have about 30%. Which clearly shows that a lot of people
outside English speaking countries have their browsers set for English
as their primary choice - just like me ;-)


Or they are just using default options. That's what they have when they download an english Firefox or a beta release.

[...]
Regardless of this, given that two people have expressed interest in
translating what's there now, I'll make sure that the translation
continues to work as good or bad as it previously had. Then we can
improve on that in the future, once we see actual needs from actual
translators.


So we can start working on it ? that would be pretty cool :)

Regards.


--
Guillaume.



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