From: | Rafael Martinez <r(dot)m(dot)guerrero(at)usit(dot)uio(dot)no> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-docs(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Documentation and explanatory diagrams |
Date: | 2010-04-05 22:58:27 |
Message-ID: | 4BBA6B13.8080002@usit.uio.no |
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Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On mån, 2010-04-05 at 16:52 +0200, Rafael Martinez wrote:
>> Well, I was thinking about DIA [1]. It runs on Unix, Windows and Mac.
>> It loads and saves diagrams to a custom XML format and it can export
>> diagrams to a number of formats, including EPS, SVG, XFIG, WMF and PNG.
>
> Preferably, any tool that we would use would save a reasonably plain
> text source file that we could check into VCS and would provide a tool
> for automatically converting to a variety of target formats. For
> example, graphviz could work well. (Not saying that graphviz is the
> right tool for producing the kinds of diagrams that you want, but it
> provides the right toolchain interfaces.) Dia might, but it would be
> interesting to see how human-readable that XML format really is. (This
> is necessary for change tracking. I would like to use a diff tool to
> see what happened to a diagram over various revisions. If opening the
> file in the editing tool, changing one bit, and saving it produces a
> completely different machine-readable-only XML mush, then it's no good.)
>
Hello
I mentioned Dia because is the one I have experience with and I know it
works with different operative systems. It is not perfect but in my
opinion it is good enough and it does a decent job.
With Dia:
* We have a program that works on Unix, Windows and Mac.
* We can create/update a diagram in an easy way without having to learn
a new complex/powerful system.
* We can save the diagrams in a plain text format that can be check into
CVS.
* We can convert to a variety of target formats with commandline tools.
I have had good experience converting to png and eps.
I have made a quick check of some of your concerns:
* Changing one bit a diagram and saving it, does not produce a
completely different machine-readable-only XML mush. It changes only
the portion of the code affected by your changes. A diff will show
only the lines affected by your changes.
* It looks like the objects in a diagram are saved in the same order
they were created.
* Modified objects keep their position in the saved file.
* The XML format used is human-readable and not so difficult to
understand but it has so much information that it would not be a good
idea to edit it manually. Straightforward changes will not be
difficult to do manually, complex changes have to be done via the
program.
regards,
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Rafael Martinez, <r(dot)m(dot)guerrero(at)usit(dot)uio(dot)no>
Center for Information Technology Services
University of Oslo, Norway
PGP Public Key: http://folk.uio.no/rafael/
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