Re: sun buys mysql

[Seth Grimes <grimes(at)altaplana(dot)com>]

"CA, where technology goes to die."

Yeah, I heard Stonebraker utter that bon mot except that the occasion 
would have been an Ingres user group meeting, before the sale of Ingres to 
Sandra Kurtzig, hence of course before the sale to CA.  I'm trying to 
remember what software he was referring to.  Ah, I know: Cullinet. 
Thanks to Wikipedia for the list of CA's acquisitions.  Stonebraker was 
speaking with regard in particular to the rise & fall of Codasyl/IDMS.

By the way, I was surprised that there was no Wikipedia entry for Illustra 
so I started one today, jotting down the essentials.  It's too bad that 
seemingly no Illustra work was rolled into Postgres but I guess IP 
considerations got in the way.

						Seth


On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Seth Grimes wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > >
> > > > > It's interesting that you guys don't pay any attention to Ingres.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why don't you?
> > > >
> > > > Do you know what "POSTGRES" stands for?  "Post-INGRES".
> > >
> > > Postgres had a more advanced, object-relational model at the time of its
> > > creation, hence the "post" naming, but Postgres was never until perhaps
> > > recently as robust as Ingres, giving lie to the "post" naming in other
> > > senses.  The emergence of Postgres did not mean that Ingres stood still.
> >
> > Ha, that is a good one.  ;-)
> >
> > Standing still is pretty much what Ingres did while owned by Computer
> > Associates ("CA, where technology goes to die").
>
> Oh, let me add I used Ingres from 1989 to 1999 and liked it very much.
>
> CA did try to do some things with Ingres.  Certainly when Postgres
> started community development in 1996 Ingres was more capabile and
> stable, but Postgres is advancing faster than any other existing
> database so Ingres and others just can't keep up with us.

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Seth Grimes   Alta Plana Corp, analytical computing & data management
              Intelligent Enterprise magazine (CMP), Contributing Editor
grimes(at)altaplana(dot)com       http://altaplana.com    301-270-0795