Re: Euro PG conference?

["Joshua D. Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>]

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:20:27 +0200
"Gabriele Bartolini" <gabriele(dot)bartolini(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

>    Also, it is not very mature (pardon the term) to propose cities
> without tangible and realistic measures of the scope of the whole
> organisational thing. Believe me, organising a PGDay such as the one
> in Italy that we did last year, is very time consuming and requires
> lots of work. Thousands of man hours and several months of planning.
> Of course, only if that's the goal.

With respect that has got to be a very large exaggeration. I was part
of the team organizing PGDay last July in the US as well as PostgreSQL
Conference in a week.

I have also personally organized the last 4 OSCON's on my own.

If it took thousands of hours, you did something wrong.

> 
>    A city, without a working group and a real project, must not even
> be mentioned. I believe that candidate cities come up with a proposal
> and then we work it out. Proposing cities as we are doing now will
> take us nowhere.

This is correct. We certainly need to make sure we have boots on the
ground, which is why I brought up France. As I see it from a boots on
the ground perspective these are our options:

France
Italy
Germany
Britain

Of these four, Italy and France see to be the most useful. (Honestly,
Britian doesn't do much for me, I already speak english ;)).

> 
>    We need facts, we need responsabilities, we need people and names
> that are willing to carry them on.

Agreed.

> 
>    I am a bit concerned about the superficiality that we have all
> proved so far as a group. That's all.
> 

O.k. then I vote France. Assuming the French group is willing to help
out a bit. 

I know that I am 5000 miles away but there is a lot I can do to help. 

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


> Ciao,
> Gabriele


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