Re: preserving forensic information when we freeze

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: preserving forensic information when we freeze
Date: 2013-06-24 12:12:34
Message-ID: 20130624121234.GD6471@awork2.anarazel.de
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On 2013-05-28 09:21:27 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> As a general statement, I view this work as something that is likely
> needed no matter which one of the "remove freezing" approaches that
> have been proposed we choose to adopt. It does not fix anything in
> and of itself, but it (hopefully) removes an objection to the entire
> line of inquiry.

Agreed. And it also improves the status quo when debugging. I wish this
would have been the representation since the beginning.

Some remarks:
* I don't really like that HeapTupleHeaderXminFrozen() now is frequently
performed without checking for FrozenTransactionId. I think the places
where that's done are currently safe, but it seems likely that we
introduce bugs due to people writing similar code.
I think replacing *GetXmin by a wrapper that returns
FrozenTransactionId if the hint bit tell us so would be a good
idea. Then add *GetRawXmin for the rest (probably mostly display).
Seems like it would make the patch actually smaller.

* The PLs imo should set fn_xmin to FrozenTransactionId if the hint bit
tell us the tuple is frozen.

* I think rewrite_heap_dead_tuple needs to check for a frozen xmin and
store that. We might looking at a chain which partially was done in
<9.4. Not sure if that's a realistic scenario, but I'd rather be safe.

Otherwise I don't see much that needs to be done before this can get
committed.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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